We all agree that the 2010 Corvette Racing season hasn't been going well [Feels like when Wormer dropped 'the big one'.] But, as any good Corvette fan [or Delta House fratboy] knows, going quietly is not the answer.
Bluto puts it all in perspective and gives us direction.
Replace the word 'college' for 'ALMS racing' / the names of the Omegas for 'BMW' and 'Ferrari' / 'Kicked out of school' for 'ALMS GT Rules' / and the name 'Neidermeyer' for 'Lizards'. NOW, listen to Bluto.
Why take advice from Animal House? The big hint here is that Eric Stratton is wearing Corvette Velocity Yellow.
Stay tuned to BBV for OUR Call to Action. "We [too] have to go all out." And "We're just the guys to do it"! On to Atlanta!
Beautiful, just Beautiful!!!!!! You Guys at Badboys are the Best.
--- johnnyoooo from Rochester, N.Y. on 08.31.10 at 9:22am
I'm looking forward to seeing you guys when you get here. Let's see some Vettes kick ass on my home track.
--- LSWon00 from Atlanta on 08.31.10 at 3:44pm
I've been waiting, living and dying with the boys this year...I will trade all of the disapointment for a total ass whipping 1,2 finish at Petit. ALMS, please turn the Vettes loose. They aren't going to influence the championship one bit...lets see what we've been missing!
--- screx0472 from unknown on 08.31.10 at 10:11pm
Yes please, turn the freaken Vette's loose. The C6R doesn't need to be held down any longer, unleash the beast!
For the guys at CR: hand out the ass whoopin' now, and take names later. YOU GUYS CAN DO IT!!!!
--- Patrick from Ohio on 08.31.10 at 12:50pm
This needs to be played outside the corvette pit just before the race. I can not wait for Petit! ALMS, let them run!!
Those VW beetle lizards, the Italians and their prancing pony, and the Bavarian Manure Wagons need to see what they have to fear.
Corvette Racing, this is your chance to shine once more, and to let the rest of the world know that you are a force to be reckoned with.
You have been patient, you have been learning, you have been observing and know what you have to do to make this happen. It is time to go out to Atlanta with one mission. TAKE NO PRISONERS!
TURN THEM LOOSE! TURN THEM LOOSE! TURN THEM LOOSE!
--- 08Z06 from Atlanta on 09.01.10 at 11:38pm
Last comment: This needs to be played outside the corvette pit just before the race. I can not wait for Petit! ALMS, let them run!!
Those VW beetle lizards, the Italians and their prancing pony, and the Bavarian Manure Wagons need to see what they have to fear.
Corvette Racing, this is your chance to shine once more, and to let the rest of the world know that you are a force to be reckoned with.
You have been patient, you have been learning, you have been observing and know what you have to do to make this happen. It is time to go out to Atlanta with one mission. TAKE NO PRISONERS!
TURN THEM LOOSE! TURN THEM LOOSE! TURN THEM LOOSE! --- 08Z06 from Atlanta on 09.01.10 at 11:38pm
FIA-GT1 ran Nurburgring - The new course, not the Nordschleife. Corvette finished on the podium in both races - P2 in the Qualifying race, P3 in the Championship race [Results found at this link].
But, the real fun may be from 2 videos posted on the GT1world site. Enjoy.
Still the only car most teams can afford to race competitively in GT1. You would hate to get the bill for updating a DBR9 for example. Nice job guys !!
--- JerryL from Miami on 08.30.10 at 11:51am
Great finish by the GT1 teams at the 'Ring. Well done, boys!
The "Corvette on track" was remarkable. Not a bad timing for the Grand Sport.
"The Green Monster" comes by its name earnestly. I thought that track was hard on Forza but that's one seriously scary track in real life.
--- SYF from Las Vegas, NV on 08.30.10 at 2:19pm
Last comment: Great finish by the GT1 teams at the 'Ring. Well done, boys!
The "Corvette on track" was remarkable. Not a bad timing for the Grand Sport.
"The Green Monster" comes by its name earnestly. I thought that track was hard on Forza but that's one seriously scary track in real life. --- SYF from Las Vegas, NV on 08.30.10 at 2:19pm
That other series ran in Montreal. Corvette lead a Pratt+Miller chassis 1-2-3 podium sweep in GT. Camaros were right behind, after a dramatic late-race Paul Edwards pass.
Corvettes are faster on the fastrer tracks. The Camaros are getting better as they are developed and they have received some "breaks" I believe.
--- JerryL from Miami on 08.30.10 at 11:32am
Great! Now, I'm going to have to follow Grand-Am racing.
Congrats to the P-M cars!
--- SYF from Las Vegas, NV on 08.30.10 at 2:21pm
great to see the vette win and have the camaros follow close behind for gm 1 2 3. but im sure after one win the officials will put back on a 100 pounds or so and make corvettes and camaros run maypops for tires. but if mazda or the 01 dp wins that's ok... BULL SHIT.
--- steve from lakeland on 08.31.10 at 8:04pm
Got to watch the race yesterday after recording it. Good to see something other than a Porsche or Mazda winning. Now all they need is for the Chevrolet powered Red Dragon to start owning the 01.
--- Joel from Miami, Florida on 09.01.10 at 4:56pm
Last comment: Got to watch the race yesterday after recording it. Good to see something other than a Porsche or Mazda winning. Now all they need is for the Chevrolet powered Red Dragon to start owning the 01. --- Joel from Miami, Florida on 09.01.10 at 4:56pm
Think we used this analogy before. But, since it keeps repeating itself on-track, might as well join the trend of doing the same thing over and over.
We're talking LMP cars banging GT cars. ALMS says they're on top of it - Stern drivers meetings / Scripts for the SpeedTV announcers explaining the 'what's-what'.
So, Corvette finishes P4 + P5 in a race shortened by an act of LMP-meets-GT[C]-meets-60 yards-of-Mosport guardrail [were those really WOODEN posts acting as safety barriers at a 21st Century professional auto race?].
This, after Corvette gets hit by the Dyson LMP, not once [in practice], but twice [in the race]. Conclusions - a] Anything affiliated with BP is a disaster. b] Dyson is already starting to hand out its 'Off-to-GrandAm' Parting Gifts.
Ed Norton and Brad Pitt had issues but it finally got resolved [If that's what you call the ending]. Wonder if the ALMS drivers will figure it out before it's too late for them?
It's funny that last year it was just the P1 and P2 and GT cars on track. Mosport is too tight of a track for 4 classes with dozens of cars in each. The Challange classes should have had their own race earliler in the weekend. Then there only would have been LMP and GT rolling around. Then Cocker wouldn't have hit the car he did! I guess on to Road Atlanta! Hopefully it will be more productive then an 8 hour Red Flag period last year.
--- Alex from Wayne America on 08.30.10 at 9:00am
Hats off to the Banner Racing vette that won the GT in the Montreal Grand Am race on Saturday.
--- Bill from VA on 08.30.10 at 9:42am
One of the arguments for slowing down the GT1 cars when the Corvettes and Astons were very fast was that they were too hard for the LMP cars to pass...because they had nearly equal top end, acceleration and brakes. Now that they are much slower they seem to be hit much more often.
--- JerryL from miami on 08.30.10 at 11:22am
I say who cares if it is hard for the LMP cars to pass the GT cars when they were less restricted. Makes better racing, and is way less dangerous then the big speed differential between the classes. The ALMS just wants the LMP cars to appear ultra dominant. I would like to see all the cars back up in the 200mph Club!
--- ride250s from Iowa on 08.30.10 at 12:54am
Damn...
Looking down on the GT cars, LMP?
--- SYF from Las Vegas, NV on 08.30.10 at 2:08pm
I have been rather furious since the practice altercation. Then the crap that went on during the race has really ticked me way off. What can the fans do, after all, ALMS claims, FOR THE FANS. I want to see something done to this crazy crap the P cars are pulling. Not like it did not happen at the 24 hours either...
--- anomirc6 from unknown on 08.30.10 at 2:32pm
I get the feeling that they (ALMS/IMSA, etc) doesn't wanted corvette racing, racing there any more. To me the things that are happening to CR are not by accident. There done om purpose.
--- Anonymous from unknown on 08.30.10 at 4:37pm
I would honestly like to see them get rid of the Challenge classes. If I wanted to watch a race where all the cars are the same I'd watch Nascar or Indy racing. You have the GTC that pretty much get in the way of everyone, and the LMPC that can barely outrun the GT cars.
And now you have GT cars getting forced out of the way of LMP cars. Like I mentioned before it cost the Corvettes in Le Mans, yesterday while racing for the lead, and ending the race about a half hour early.
On another note it is good to see Corvette Racing getting into the mix. Little by little they are working their way to the front where they belong. Hope we can all see a season ending win!
--- Joel from Miami, Florida on 08.30.10 at 5:48pm
I don't like the GTC class Porsches either but I was very suprised to see their topend higher than the GT2 cars at least at Mosport. I wish they would just allow the Euro GT3 cars. However on many courses they would be faster than the current GT2's. At least they are in Europe.
"But as they entered the corner a Corvette GT car was also in the same place and as the Porsche moved over on Chris, Chris moved over on the Corvette. With nowhere to go, they both made contact."
It doesn't say which Porsche so unless someone has a video, there's no telling which Porsche (GT ot GTC) forced the LMP into the Vette.
--- SYF from Las Vegas, NV on 08.30.10 at 7:00pm
Well I agree with a lot of you, in that the speeds need to be adjusted. GT and LMPC need to be sped up some more, the current restrictor increase for the LMPCs has the gap about right between the 2. As for all the moaning about LMPC and GTC, get over it!! This is no different that the 4 class series that has been going for some time, just tweaked a little. The 'Porsche' that everyone is trying to blame is the Spyder that was leading the race overall!! Talk about jumping to conclusions! Doh.. Dyson was trying to get around the CytoSport car, he fracked up, period! And had you recorded the race, they show the incident.
L.P. 8)
--- HORNDAWG from State of Jefferson on 08.31.10 at 1:30pm
Question, Why did the CR have there Direct Injection System taken away from them these hole year and yet the ferrari team's are able too run a direct Injection system ?
--- Anonymous from unknown on 08.31.10 at 3:10am
There is no D.I. on the C6 in any of its street models.
L.P. 8)
--- HORNDAWG from State of Jefferson on 08.31.10 at 3:25am
Not sure if it will help, but contact info for ALMS follows:
American Le Mans Series 1394 Broadway Avenue Braselton, GA 30517 Phone: (706) 654-2983 Fax: (706) 654-2019 Internet: www.AmericanLeMans.com
Bob Dickinson, Director of Media and Communications E-mail: radickinson@americanlemans.com
--- anomirc6 from unknown on 08.31.10 at 7:15am
To HornDawg: Actually the 4 classes here are a bit different than what ALMS had before. Before you had LMP2 which could keep up and sometimes pass LMP1 cars, and the GT1 would just completely run away from the GT2 cars. Now you have LMPC which ain't anywhere near as fast as the LMP1, and can barely outrun the GT cars. Then toss into the mix the GTC cars which are the slowest in the bunch, and are all Porsches for that matter.
Whats the point in these "C" classes anyways? What so everyone is the same? Shit make that its own race series, let everyone else battle it out on their own terms. Get rid of the "Challenge" classes, and just add more cars to their respective groups.
--- Joel from Miami, Florida on 08.31.10 at 4:25pm
Well I guess I will have to go slow and spell it out. There are 4 distinct classes, 2 prototype and 2 GT. The terminal velocity between GTC and LMP is no greater than what was between the P-1 front running diesels and GT-2(Of the time). Especially that old Viper. The point of the 'C' classes is/was to keep grid #s up and grow teams in a more $ friendly class that will move up into the upper classes, which reportedly (outside source) is working, on both sides of the pond!
L.P. 8)
--- HORNDAWG from State of Jefferson on 08.31.10 at 4:37pm
Thanks, Horndawg, for that explanation. Think they'll keep the same rules in place for next year?
--- SYF from Las Vegas, NV on 09.02.10 at 3:11pm
Last comment: Thanks, Horndawg, for that explanation. Think they'll keep the same rules in place for next year? --- SYF from Las Vegas, NV on 09.02.10 at 3:11pm
OK, it may not be as 'big' a move as Snookie to Miami, but it IS a change for Corvette Racing.
"To compete at this level, the drivers must have absolute confidence in their car and be totally comfortable with its setup. By realigning our driver pairings to better match setup preferences, Corvette Racing is seeking to minimize compromises in the car setups and maximize our on-track performance."
With that, godug explains the move - Olivier Beretta to the #3 C6R / Jan Magnussen to the #4. Olivier / JO and Ollie / Mags vs Corvette's competition.
No word on whether 'The Situation' has been brought in as the new Team Conditioning Coach.
IMPORTANT - And speaking of popularity hunting, ALMS is having its "Most Popular Driver" and "From the Fans" Awards with nominations being accepting. Go here for the drivers [O'Connell + Beretta] vote. Make your godug 'FtF' nomination via email webmaster@americanlemans.com now.
Makes sense - put both shoes in one car to maximize chance for that one car to win. I can see a 1st and 5th some possible.
--- Bill from VA on 08.27.10 at 2:03pm
i think jan magussen and gavin are the best drivers of all corvette racing driver line up.i see them kicking ass. jo and ollie are great drivers also and will kick ass too. go corvette racing.
--- steve from lakeland,fl. on 08.27.10 at 10:40pm
Ollie and Jan both have a more aggressive driving style and Oliver and JO both are more reserved and more about getting the car to the finish.
I think this will for sure make for some good racing this weekend.
--- Mike from FL on 08.27.10 at 12:00pm
Just saw the video of the Dyson/CR brawl. Someone's pissed!
--- ride250s from Iowa on 08.28.10 at 5:19pm
ride250s: What brawl???
--- thebrander from Houston on 08.28.10 at 6:05pm
ride250s, were did you see that video at?
--- Anonymous from unknown on 08.28.10 at 6:10pm
Come on r250s, what brawl?
--- Shishi Ryoshin from unknown on 08.28.10 at 7:40pm
Ok Whats going on, I can't find anything. All I'm hearing is Dyson and Corvette Raceing was in a fight in pits.
--- Anonymous from unknown on 08.28.10 at 8:06pm
Watched qualifying on the live feed and they showed the Dyson Mazda attempting a ridiculous pass late in the qualifying session on the #4 Corvette, I believe. I think it was Oliver Gavin who amazingly kept the vette out of the wall...needless to say he was pissed and in Chris Dyson's face until some Mazda crewmember grabbed him from behind...nothing much beyond that, but the ALMS radio folks called out Dyson for a needless and reckless pass during practice. The prototype boys think that they are guaranteed a right of way...well everywhere. It was the same turn that kamikaze John Field forced the #4 off last year at Mosport.
--- screx0472 from unknown on 08.28.10 at 8:38pm
...sorry the idiot pass was in a test session, not in qualifying.
--- screx0472 from unknown on 08.28.10 at 8:39pm
Thanks screx0472 for the update.
--- Anonymous from unknown on 08.28.10 at 9:35pm
Seems a little fishy to me. Why are the set up preferences just now becoming an issue?
If the set up preference thing is just a publicity cover, then I don't quite understand this move. Mags and Gavin have been the faster 2 drivers, but Johnny and Olivier certainly haven't been slow. It seems like the way they were running was better for sprint races where one driver has a shorter stint: have the reliable guys start the race, then hand both cars over to the faster drivers for the finish.
My guess is that perhaps it's a practice run for PLM, where the longer stints will make having 2 faster drivers more beneficial than it would be in a short sprint.
Or perhaps this has something to do with the testing with other drivers near the beginning of the year...? Maybe Johnny and Olivier are on their way out and they want Gavin and Mags to "gel" for 2011?
Regardless of what is going on, I wish them the best for the race tomorrow.
--- Axxy from unknown on 08.29.10 at 6:08am
Surely CR wouldn't ditch what's shaping up to be the 'most popular' driver(s)?
Perhaps since a championship isn't in the cards this season, they are just trying things out...
--- Shifter from Tucson, AZ on 08.29.10 at 10:59am
Sorry I didn't check back to update you guys. I don't think it was Gavin, but Beretta. And yes it was the test session. They showed it on the live qualifying feed on Speedtv, and the commentators said it got nastier, but then they didn't show much. I'm sure the ALMS wants to hush it up a bit. I was waiting for it to get on youtube.
--- ride250s from Iowa on 08.29.10 at 11:59am
No mater what these guys do they can't catch a break. Ever notice how 9 of out 10 times when something bad happens on the track Corvette racing is right there?
--- C64ME from Southern California on 08.29.10 at 6:39pm
It just ain't CR's year...one more "get your sea-legs" race, learn from this season, and come back and whup some arse next season...
--- Shifter from Tucson, AZ on 08.29.10 at 6:45pm
It is really beginning to suck...the Corvette is the fastest car on the track and finishes 4th and 5th...ughh. Ill be at Road Atlanta and will be praying for good luck and NO rain this year!
--- screx0472 from unknown on 08.29.10 at 9:20pm
Well someone better do something, because I'm sick of seeing the GT cars getting pushed out of the way by the LMP cars. It cost the Corvettes in Le Mans, cost them today at Mosport while being in the top 3, and cut the race short by sending a Porsche into the guardrail. They mentioned during the race that officials are going to start severely punishing LMP cars that hit GT cars, but to me its ruining the GT battle cause they haven't done enough.
--- Joel from Miami, Florida on 08.29.10 at 10:02pm
I have a solution. Make the restrictors a little bigger and let the GT Cars get faster! Then they could run carbon rotors again!
--- ride205s from Iowa on 08.29.10 at 10:46pm
Last comment: I have a solution. Make the restrictors a little bigger and let the GT Cars get faster! Then they could run carbon rotors again! --- ride205s from Iowa on 08.29.10 at 10:46pm
alms
Saturday's red-flag-shortened Qualifying session flattered and deceived. On RaceDay, be it weight / restrictors / allowances allowed [and not] with the competition and C6R, Corvette could push, but not finish the fight, with 2 of its 3 key competitor brands.
Knowing this Corvette Racing team, a log of what's working and what's not is being assembled / attacked. What can be modded into the 2010 car will happen, what needs to be designed into next year's will be put in play.
Now, it's on to Mosport, home of a fantastic 2009 GT[2] win. The 2-hr, 45-minute race starts at 3PM EST on Sunday, Aug 29, with live coverage via American Le Mans Radio, Sirius Channel 127, and XM Channel 242. The race will be on SPEEDTV from 4 - 7PM EST.
Are the cars running to ACO spec? I can’t seem to find what IMSA has added/decreased in weight or restrictors? The cars look artificially heavy and seemed to plow through corners and braking late was an exercise in futility. It looks like they took a lot of down force off the car to gain some top end; great for qualifying, not so great for racing in traffic. A respectable finish, but not good enough for Corvette Racing. I wonder also if they will continue with the 5.5 liter, they lost their torque advantage when they abandon the LS7 based engine because of a rule change that never went into effect. I think they need a race car based on the Z06 Carbon not the ZR1.
--- JackFlash from Pensacola, FL on 08.23.10 at 10:32am
The Corvette GT's cars have the same weight and air restrictors as they did at the begain of the year, that's the reason the car performance like it does. IMSA will not adjust the weight and air-restrictors for the the corvette's to be more compative, because there afraid of them winning all the time.
--- Anonymous from unknown on 08.23.10 at 1:00am
Corvette Racing doesn't make excuses but it's sure as hell frustrating that the ACO and IMSA have been considerable jerks towards Corvette Racing for fielding a truly world-beating sportscar. It scares the living shit outta them.
Stay focused on the prize, CR. Take no prisoners, bitches.
--- SYF from Las Vegas, NV on 08.23.10 at 2:38pm
I sure had a blast up at Road America yesterday. The only thing I can complain about is I wish the race was still 4 hours long or longer... Longer tracks like this should have longer races. These are endurance cars, why so many 2 hour and 45 min races on these wonderful tracks?!?!
--- ride250s from Iowa on 08.23.10 at 5:48pm
It's really sad to see what has happened to this once mighty team, whatever the reasons.
--- C64ME from Southern California on 08.23.10 at 6:54pm
This is really just a speed bump the cars are carring to much weight because the series is affaird of what these car can do when equal to everyone eles. We have already run off the competion in GT1 now they don't want it to happen in GT2 so they added more weight to the vettes. TIME TO DIG IN AND KICK SOME ASS!!!
--- fireball111 from unknown on 08.23.10 at 7:28pm
Yes, and why the he_l are the Corvettes still at 1260? The heaviest car in class! Its clear that the other cars are at an advantage and the envelope is having to be pushed past the point of reason and poo poo is occuring. Nobody got a set to tell Braselton to pull their heads out??
L.P. 8)
--- HORNDAWG from State of Jefferson on 08.23.10 at 7:55pm
I can tell you why horndawg. Because IMSA and the ACO doen't want Corvette Raceing to win ever single race, and or no race at all. And even if Corvette Raceing ran a perfect 2010 racing season, they still would be middle to end of the pack performance.
--- Anonymous from unknown on 08.23.10 at 11:34pm
Meh, it was still a very good race!
--- Shifter from Tucson, AZ on 08.23.10 at 12:38pm
Not a bad race, strong finish by both. DON'T FORGET to vote for most popular driver in ALMS- O'Connell and Beretta are doing well currently!
--- Corn-vette from NY on 08.24.10 at 10:57am
Someone posted a few races back that all GT cars run at 1245kg except C6r @ 1260kg. Also, other cars, bmw,fer,porche are 4.0 ltr engines vs 5.5 of C6r so air restrictors are smaller to even things out. Don't think 15kg is the big diff but restrictors are.
--- Levi from Tampa,Fla on 08.24.10 at 10:59am
The Vettes are not running under any adjustment to the restrictors, at least not a published one! They should be at ACO/IMSA/ALMS spec which is on page 23 and 24 of the GT-2 regs., they get an adjustment (pg. 23) for being 2 valve cam in block engines. http://www.lemans.org/wpphpFichiers/1/1/ressources/Pdf/24heures_auto_2010/reglements_sportifs/2010_05_25_reglement_lmgt2_2010.pdf
The 15kg>33lbs makes a difference!! Ask the team.
L.P. 8)
--- HORNDAWG from State of Jefferson on 08.24.10 at 2:15pm
The weight is based on the engine size. And IMSA can add more weight or take weight away based on the cars performance. If it looks like or is winning all of the time it will add weight and if it is running at the back of the pack it will let the team lighten the car. They can also impose smaller air restrictors to slow you down. I believe Corvette Racing has one of if not the largest engine displacements in the GT class that is why the extra weight. Also as mentioned IMSA does not want Corvette to become a dominate car in this class as they did in the GT1 class. Don't forget at one time GT1 had Aston Martin, Viper, Saleen and Ferrari. But after a year or so Corvette was almost unbeatable and the teams dropped out. They could not justify the money it cost to run in the GT1 class and always be chasing the Corvette, plus it did not look good for cars that sell for three to four times that of a Corvette to lose to CR all the time. IMSA does not want that to happen again, although with the more restrictive rules in the GT class I thing you will always see the four major brands (Ferrari, Porsche, BMW & Corvette) at this time be very competitive.
--- TR6speed from Florida on 08.24.10 at 2:23pm
@TR6speed: Wrong! The restrictors are determined by weight and engine size! Weight is determined on tire size. Almost all of the GT class is now on the 'big' tire and running @ 1245 w corresponding restrictors to engine size and valve configuration. The Vettes are getting csre_ed with the extra weight, period. It is above the ACO spec for class, which all the others are running at. The BMW was also running at 1260 but that has been lifted at it now runs at 1245 Comp. (Bulletin #10-17). GT-1 was GT-1! This is GT-2 and it is clear that the Veetes are being held back, which is utter BS!!! They are being adjusted into non-winning cars, and that is wrong, IMO, period.
--- HORNDAWG from State of Jefferson on 08.24.10 at 2:45pm
The extra weight was very apparent in the braking zones at road america. You just had to watch the race to see the 2 passes in turn one where we went wide cause we can't late brake like the BMWs and the ferrari's
--- fireball111 from unknown on 08.24.10 at 4:05pm
IMO the Corvettes have not been overwhelming for three reasons. 1. The Risi Ferraris, Lizard Porsche and Rahal Letterman BMWs are very talented teams with great drivers and fast race cars. 2. The Corvette racing team has been shooting itself in the foot with unnecessary penalties (like running over hoses in the pits), running into each other, making painfully long pit stops, and making some questionable race strategy decisions. 3. The 5.5 liter Corvette GT engines are being built in-house by the GM Powertrain Group rather than by a proven race car engine builder. Is this a case of being “Penny wise and pound foolish?” There are some very talented people running the Corvette Racing Team, and you can bet your butt they will not let the current level of performance continue.
--- Rick Baker from Harbor Springs on 08.24.10 at 4:23pm
Come on!, rick baker, if corvette raceing didn't make any mistakes they would be mid to end of the pack performance. As for Gm's Powertrain Group in house 5.5-liter V8 engine, that engine is not underpower nor are they being penny wise or pound foolish.
--- Anonymous from unknown on 08.24.10 at 4:47pm
P.S. If you think that GM/Katech V8 engine will make them have better performance. No!, if they went too a larger displacement, they would have more weight added and even smaller restricrtors.
--- Anonymous from unknown on 08.24.10 at 4:54pm
Did the team just make the wrong calls? Did they use the soft tires to get good position just to loose it as the race progressed? Did they take all the downforce out and put in their Lemans set up and get out driven in the corners,etc?This was all posted by the drivers before and during the race.I think they know why they arent winning but naturally arent commenting.Why dont some of the weekend track racing guys comment?
--- Levi from Tampa,Fla on 08.24.10 at 5:25pm
I'm going crazy waiting for Petite. I really hope everything falls in line for Road Atlanta. Also IMSA should look into the BMW set ups cause you put that kinda of distance on other cars without a clearly better power to weight ratio. Heard a few months back that they were aloud bigger restrictors because the front of their car was wider than the others in GT. WTF??? If they did that for corvette, the whole sport would collapse.
--- Yellow99TJ from unknown on 08.24.10 at 5:44pm
Sometimes I think ALMS needs Corvette more than Corvette needs ALMS. Maybe GM can show some guts and press this point for more equality. I wonder how attendance would be affected if CR dropped out.
--- Bill from VA on 08.24.10 at 8:44pm
Its tough, we know to maintain equality with the myriad of different cars racing in the GT category, but rednecks at dragstrips everywhere have the idea..."run what ya brung!" If weight, power, braking and aero were based mores strictly on production cars, then what would the competition do? I would love to run all competition off, but at the same time it would be more fun to spank the European makes on a regular basis. The series being ACO regulated I don't see that happening. Corvette will just have to keep improving the brand and thus giving us better streetcars...I'm good with that at the end of the day.
--- screx0472 from unknown on 08.24.10 at 9:37pm
All I am reading is a lot of complaining about the competition... Competition is GOOD, Close competition is BETTER. No matter what regulations they throw at Corvette Racing, they will find a way to become front runners. It just takes time! Enjoy the great racing and bring on the BEST!
--- ride250s from Iowa on 08.24.10 at 9:58pm
Competition is GOOD, when it is true competition! Its even BETTER, when everyone is runnng to the same rules. And it is BEST, when the sanctioning body does not stifle one team before they have even turned a wheel!
L.P. 8)
--- HORNDAWG from State of Jefferson on 08.24.10 at 11:31pm
I thought the Corvette weight penalty was due to a non-spec production block. Someone who knows, please correct if I am wrong.
--- John from Chicago on 08.25.10 at 1:32am
What do you want a Spec GT Series? I believe, as I think IMSA/ACO Believe, that Corvette Racing is such a well adapting team they will become dominant agian at some point. CR has the funding to look beyond the typical items that increase speed and HP. For instance, zero viscosity oils, ceramic wheel bearings, and more efficent A/C compressors. They will continue advanced research and developement. IMSA and the ACO do not hate or pick on CR. CR brings in a substaintial part of their race attendance. I don't think they would jeopardize that amount of income. CR will be back on top eventually, everyone knows this. Additionally, think of all the new things the team is learning from their defeats, things that will make them faster in the future.
Focus on Sunday's race and do your damndest to pound them into the ground- Take No Prisoners!
--- ride250s from Iowa on 08.25.10 at 7:59pm
Ahhh, is somebody upsetting your sensibilities? I have every confidence that CR will eventually work through the BS and come out on top!!! That however does not change the fact that it is BS!! The other new GT entrant that was castrated at the start of the season, which has the funding and provevance to match CR, have already been allowed a total new aero package and had the extra ballast removed, in a chassis that has a totally manipulated layout! If you want to sing kumbaya until the cows come home, you go right ahead, me, not so much!!!
L.P. 8)
--- HORNDAWG from State of Jefferson on 08.25.10 at 8:45pm
I guess I'm just not as upset about it as everyone else. The fact that they can still finish in the top 3 keeps me happy.
--- ride250s from Iowa on 08.26.10 at 6:56pm
Well I sure as heck do not race to finish third! I do not know of anyone who does. Do you think that CR races for third? I don't. This aint tiddlywinks!
L.P. 8)
--- HORNDAWG from State of Jefferson on 08.26.10 at 8:39pm
LoL, thats not entirely what I meant. The level of competition they are up against, and the restrictions they have, they can still hold their own pretty well. Sure I would like to see the CR restrictions loosened, but they are not. Drive on to dominate another day.
--- ride250s from Iowa on 08.26.10 at 9:21pm
So how long are you willing to wait for Corvette to have a legitimate shot at winning? I am not talking about a victory because the other teams failed somehow and Corvette is the lucky recipient; I am talking about an honest victory with fair rules in place. The GT2 car is relatively new, but we are now a year without a victory from a very good team; and it doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to figure out something is amiss. Yes the team has had its share of mistakes, but I would argue most are born out of trying to make up for the unfair BOP that has been placed on them. There seems to be a trend to the injustice too, In FIA GT3 the Z06 R was doing rather well to the Euro-makes dismay, can’t have that can we, so they added 242 pounds of ballast to the car and restricted the engine yet again. This is in a class where a Ferrari F430 runs ballast free. In FIA GT1 the Corvettes are back up to 1240KG for the Nurburgring, I guess they were running too close to the front of the pack at 1220KG. At the same time the Aston is now allowed to run at 1190KG, 10KG below their BOP 1200KG minimum. You want more; In GT4 which is probably the closest to street version racing the Corvette and Mustang are the only cars running with a restricted ECU spec, and the Corvette C6 has 25KG ballast as well. The BMW M3 runs at 100% ECU spec and gets to drop 50KG. So when I hear a sanctioning body say build a better car I get more than a little pizzed when they already have the better car, it’s just been artificially slowed down so the (sarcasm)superior designs(/sarcasm)can keep up. If GT racing is always going to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator maybe GM should start racing Malibus instead of Corvettes, with the liberal allowances for family sedans I think they could do quite well.
--- JackFlash from Pensacola, FL on 08.27.10 at 10:40am
Maybe they could put a street ZR1 on track. It makes more HP and has better brakes. At least this isn't as bad as SPEED GT world challenge where Volvos are whipping Vipers, Vettes and Porsches. Lets just pretend its a very colorful parade.
--- Bill from VA on 08.27.10 at 2:01pm
Last comment: Maybe they could put a street ZR1 on track. It makes more HP and has better brakes. At least this isn't as bad as SPEED GT world challenge where Volvos are whipping Vipers, Vettes and Porsches. Lets just pretend its a very colorful parade. --- Bill from VA on 08.27.10 at 2:01pm
This needs to be played outside the corvette pit just before the race. I can not wait for Petit!
ALMS, let them run!!
Those VW beetle lizards, the Italians and their prancing pony, and the Bavarian Manure Wagons need to see what they have to fear.
Corvette Racing, this is your chance to shine once more, and to let the rest of the world know that you are a force to be reckoned with.
You have been patient, you have been learning, you have been observing and know what you have to do to make this happen. It is time to go out to Atlanta with one mission. TAKE NO PRISONERS!
TURN THEM LOOSE! TURN THEM LOOSE! TURN THEM LOOSE!
--- 08Z06 from Atlanta on 09.01.10 at 11:38pm